Assassin Creed 3

**Dave** · 02-20-2012, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by SuperAfroBoy

I still haven't watched Breaking Bad. Should I?

Next to not selling your kid to China for cheap slave labor, it'd be the best decision you'll ever make.

**Dave** · 02-20-2012, 09:18 AM

**scrappy** · 02-20-2012, 09:51 AM

That's not even apples and oranges. That's like apples and monster trucks. Why would you compare AC to Halo or Zelda? That'd be like saying, "In this game, Master Chief will now run through the same ship twice, stab a member of the covenant, and move on!" Halo and Zelda play like they always have. How is it recycled? It's what the game is, but, at the same time, you're moving forward. The plot progresses with other enemies, twists, etc. AC's plot progresses, but then you end up doing the same things all over again. Kill the Pope, move on. Kill the Pope. Move on. And what do you do in between? Run, kill some guards, fly, etc. How is that even remotely like Halo and Zelda? Yeah, you're shooting and slashing enemies, but please give me one example in either game where you end up doing the same exact thing (that isn't conducive to what the game actually is). That's exactly what AC does.

You kind of just proved my point by saying that you do the same thing over and over again in Zelda and Halo but the plot progresses. Then you say the plot in AC progresses but you do the same thing. I find that you do the same thing much more in Zelda and Halo then you do in AC. Zelda is "go thru the level, find the item for that level (i.e. hookshot, mirror shield, etc) use it to get to the boss where you need to use said weapon to kill it. Halo is just running and shooting. Thats it. I find AC has a lot of more diversity in its missions and its story than both of those games combined. Seriously. I dont even know what games you've been playing. Oh by the way...you never kill a pope in any Assassin's Creed game.

Yep. And I get to do that hundreds of times in the game. Nothing like telling a bunch of assassins to go do my shit while I'm out trying to rob people of their money and kill some politician (or 50 of them). Hey, it's kinda like Pokemon! They can level up, get cooler shit, and become a badass like me....And then I tell them to jump off a ledge into a pile of hay that will safely catch them. Or, if I really want to spice things up, I tell them to help me out while fighting a group of assassins. Man, that never gets old.

Now you're just being a hater. There is no logical argument here except "I dont like it." I enjoyed building up the Assassins because then you can use them to help you in tough spots and use them for the missions with the multiplayer characters. Allowed you to experience what being the Mentor is all about.

Well, I'm glad someone likes it. Ubisoft has to milk it for all its worth, just like they did for Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six, and every other series with 500 games. AC and AC 2, for the most part, are good games. But since then, it's been about rushing titles out the door for the sake of a quick buck. You've seen it with other games they've produced, and it's right here. Brotherhood and Revelations are just playing little brother, as you're confined to just a few aspects of what made the first two fun. Except they throw in a few new gizmos and gadgets that you can do hundreds of times. AC 3 will go back to what made the first two relevant. One would also hope that it's the last one. If not, then the Ubisoft Curse is officially on. I feel like Ubisoft is one of those companies that sits back with the cigars and just laughs when they hear what fans want. It's like with most other games you see how everything develops and improves. You don't get that with AC. Companies listen to what fans want and they improve on it. Ubisoft just laughs and continues to sit back and smoke their cigars. Honestly, I see AC as more wasted potential than I do of a shitty game (because it's really not). But a lot has gone ignored for the sake of just continuing to do what they've been doing the entire time.

I feel the exact opposite. Seeing the improvement in AC from the first game to Revelations shows they care exactly what the fans want. Both in and out of the expanded universe. Only place I dont see that happening is with Project Legacy but thats a facebook game so cant blame them.

And Splinter Cell is a terrible example. The latest one was basically a re-boot of the series and the most realistic stealth game I've ever played.

If anything Halo is the ultimate example of just pounding out content to make money. Everything from Comics to Red vs Blue is being orchestrated to make money. That game hasn't had a compelling story since 2002.

Oh...and Breaking Bad is the best show in the history of everything.

**Travis** · 02-20-2012, 11:48 AM

Zelda and halo should not even be in the same sentence.

Zelda is God.

Halo had a great first game, the rest have just been meh.

Also GTA 5 gonna be great.

**scrappy** · 02-20-2012, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Travis

Zelda and halo should not even be in the same sentence.

Zelda is God.

Halo had a great first game, the rest have just been meh.

Also GTA 5 gonna be great.

Yeah I should apologize/clarify. The Zelda series is above and beyond Halo. I was just referring to the recycled plot format of the Zelda games. With the whole "we have to get the 7 ____ in the dungeons to stop the bad guy." Similar to how Darksiders was. But Dave is right in that each of the dungeons are very different from one another as are the bosses.

Couldn't agree more with the Halo comment.

As for GTA 5, I'm sure its going to be great like all the GTAs are. Its just after 4 games its kind of like "been there done that." I might get the game when they announce the next one just to get caught up, but I have no desire to play 5. I want to play Saints Row3 more for some reason.

**Logan** · 02-20-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by SuperAfroBoy

I still haven't watched Breaking Bad. Should I?

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

**Oobs** · 02-20-2012, 04:48 PM

I havent watched it either, I also heard The Walking Dead is good too

**Dave** · 02-20-2012, 05:16 PM

I feel like The Walking Dead is picking up steam a lot quicker than Breaking Bad did. As good as The Walking Dead is, Breaking Bad is a MUCH better show. I compare the two because they're both on AMC.

Season one of The Walking Dead is on Netflix. It's only six episodes. The pilot episode is actually really good, but it kinda loses steam up until the last episode. Season 2 has been fantastic.

Solid show.

**Logan** · 02-20-2012, 05:47 PM

I've never watched The Walking Dead.

It seemed boring as FUCK last night when I was half watching it waiting on the ME3 trailer.

Too much drama. KILL SOME MORE ZOMBIES!

**Dave** · 02-20-2012, 05:59 PM

See, that was the problem I had with the first season. The first two episodes got it done, but then it turned into a soap opera by developing all these characters and advancing the plot. By the time I was done being pissed about it, it was the final episode of season one and shit was finally going down again. Season 2 has done a much better job of character interactions, drama, and shit ruining.

That's definitely what keeps it from being a great show.

**Logan** · 02-20-2012, 06:10 PM

Thats the problem with a zombie show. Zombies are movie material! Less talkin more killing!

**scrappy** · 02-20-2012, 07:47 PM

My wife is giving birth in August. So i plan to re-activate my Netflix then and go thru Walking dead and Mad men while staying up all night with a fake boob on.

Any other shows on n-flix i should check out?

**SuperAfroBoy** · 02-21-2012, 09:39 AM

The I.T. Crowd

**Dave** · 02-21-2012, 01:09 PM

I've been meaning to try out Mad Men, but there are a lot of Showtime and HBO shows I need to catch up on.

**Bronson** · 02-21-2012, 03:10 PM

Mad Men is really character-driven. It's a very slow-paced show. It's good if you get to know the characters, basically because every single character on the show is a terrible person, so you just wait to see who gets screwed over for being a dick next. Don Draper is a great character, but there isn't anything in the way of action. Very little comic relief. It wins awards because it's written to do so. I don't think Dave or Logan would like it.